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Originally Posted by Kelrathi
Excellent post.
Funny thing with conspiracies is that they ALWAYS come up with new stuff to question. For example, shortly after popular mechanics answered pretty much EVERY SINGLE MAJOR POINT of the conspiracy theorists with a book debunking the ENTIRE conspiracy theory. Guess what happened?
Thats right, the conspiracy theorists came out WITH THEIR OWN BOOK entitled "Ok so we were wrong about all that, but what about this !!11111"
And were seeing the same thing here.
I really liked the whole "why is the hole in the pentagon not in the shape of the plane??? hmmmm??? why? why is it not in the shape of a plane!?!?!"
Im sorry, did you expect it to make a cartoon like outline of a plane after it crashed?
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About the pentagon, theorists like to point out the lack of identifiable wreckage at the crash site. Saying there is not a whole lot that resembles the plane. But you take a look at this picture, of a plane that fell from the sky in Africa, and you can see how small and scattered the bulk of the debris is.
http://www.sudan.net/graphic/news/te...lane_crash.jpg
That plane fell from the sky, is was not used as a missile like the one that crashed into the pentagon, so the damage to the plane is obviously going to be greater on the aircraft that was moving at the faster speed. I couldn't remember the exact scientific explanation for this from high school, so I cheated. Here is a link from Wikipedia on kinetic energy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenetic_energy
Based on their formula, I've done some math..
A 757 weight approx 220,000 lbs (100,000 kg) with standard crew, passengers, cargo, and fuel for an minimum distance flight.
Let's say that the plane is traveling 200 mph (90 m/s).
Based on the formula from the link. I've attempted to do the math correctly, and come up with this.
.5 x 100,000 x 8,100 = 405,000,000 joules
Now if the plane was traveling 400 mph (180 m/s) the energy is quadrupled.
.5 x 100,000 x 32,400 = 1,620,000,000 joules
So you can see that the the plane moving at 400 mph has A LOT more kinetic energy than the one moving half that speed. I am explaining this in reference to the plane crash picture. Like I said, that plane fell from the sky, and you saw the damage that was done to it. The plane that flew into the Pentagon was said in the official government report to be moving over 500 mph, but experts say it was probably closer to 450 mph.
How much damage to the plane does a joule do? Who knows? I don't know if there's is any way of illustrating that. But from what I remember from school, kinetic energy is what blows shit to pieces. I'm not an expert on this field, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on anything.
And in case you don't know. Yes, planes can propel themselves faster than they fall.