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Old 07-27-2007, 07:10 PM   #29 (permalink)
Kelrathi
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Originally Posted by Pedro
here I thought that crusades were cause of religion, greek wars cause of honor and ww2 cause of racism and world domination...

Youd be wrong. Allow me to clarify. A simple wikipedia search should do, if you dont think its right, i can find other sources.

"The immediate cause of the First Crusade was Alexius I's appeal to Pope Urban II for mercenaries to help him resist Muslim advances into territory of the Byzantine Empire"

It commonly understood that for the church:
Land = People = Followers = Give money to the church

for example imagine if the US never carried out the lousiana purchase, kicked spain out of this hemisphere or took all that land from mexico, oh my bad "purchased" that land.

If the muslims continued taking more and more land, theyd convert the people on that land, and lo and behold, no more money for the church.

more on that same line....

"which centre around trying to establish whether the move was selfish profiteering for the Western Church or genuine aid to a Christian ally. Some historians have suggested that the Pope:
- Saw economic and political gains for the Western Church"

Greek Wars
"Two major wars shaped the Ancient Greek world. The Persian Wars (500–448 BC) are recounted in Herodotus's Histories. Ionian Greek cities revolted from the Persian Empire and were supported by some of the mainland cities, eventually led by Athens. (The notable battles of this war include Marathon, Thermopylae, Salamis, and Plataea.)"

All these wars were about money, clearly the persians didnt want to conquer greece for "honor"
Ever heard of the quote by macedonias king to the spartans "If I win this war, youll be slaves foerever" the spartans replied with one word "if"

In the battle of Troy, when the greeks finally made it into the city, they all rushed straight to Troys treasury. Surely they were looking for honor there

land = money

World War 2 was for racism ??? This is a common post justification of this specific war. Just like some americans are trying to justify the invasion of iraq by saying "its to take out the terrorists that are already there!" forgeting the fact that there were no terrorists in iraq before we invaded. Unless you count some palestinian guy thats been in iraq since the 80s.

How awfull how we lost World war 2 then, since clearly racism is still rampant not just in our country but throughout the world.

Japan and Germany each sought to aquire more land, in this case it wasnt followers they wanted.
Land = Resources = Money
The japanese needed oil, rubber, etc
Same goes for the germans.
Racism and discrimination was never an issue until well after the war for the simple fact that we were just as bad when it comes to killing innocent people.
No one has any doubt that our leaders would have been tried for war crimes had japan and germany won.

Our ally russia, killed more innocent people than germany and japan.

"ww2 cause of racism"
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