Inheritance Cycle (Eragon)

[HeXXeD]

Originally Posted by Pani

I just couldn't bring myself to read these books now, not after being totally disappointed with the movie - sorry all you book version fans out there.

And I thought John Malcovitch made a terrible fantasy bad guy - he did such a good job in con air.

you watched the movie without reading the book first?

if that's the case then you don't know what your missing, but hey its up to you to red whatever you want I just think you shouldn't base it off a movie because 9 time out of 10 the book is always way better than a movie version

[immortal]

The books were actually very well written and I'm looking forward to the third. Wish he hadn't decided to make it a four book series though. Should have just made the last book longer, but I'll still read it.

[Kareas]

Well i guess ill be the thorn in this thread.

The books are good, i won't dispute that. But put up against 'the greats' in literature, these books don't stack up well. Don't mistake a long book and story for quality. The characters are so average it gives me cancer. The Bad guy betrayed his homeland for power(wow where have i seen that plot before, maybe uhhh everywhere). The main character's parents are dead, why does every main character's parents have to die? I feel sorry for the family of any main character in a book/movie, it usually mean instant death. The main character is just an average farm boy who gets a special power and must save the world. This has got to be the most overused plot line in all of literature. The author is supposed to be a genious, but lacks any real writing experience(he is only 17 at the time of the first book) and fails to create a unique character. Plus this book seems to take a lot from the LOTR series.

"But but but, its a best-seller, it must me good! right?"

Wrong, popularity doesn't mean quality, look at modern artists like Brittany Spears and Jessica Simpson.

"It has won awards n stuff"

Sure, its a good book for the 18 and under crown, but for more sophisticated readers it falls short.

Here is something that I have found on the net.

MILADRIS>Imladris

VANILOR>Valinor
ARDWEN>Arwen
CERANTHOR>Caranthir
BIERLAND>Beleriand
ISENSTAR>Isengaurd
MELIAN>Melian
MITHRIM>Mithrim
ISIDAR>Isildur
TURIN>Turin (note: the "u," in the right "Turin," has an accent)
ERAGON>ARAGORN (comparison in pronunciation)

[HeXXeD]

Originally Posted by Kareas

Well i guess ill be the thorn in this thread.

The books are good, i won't dispute that. But put up against 'the greats' in literature, these books don't stack up well. Don't mistake a long book and story for quality. The characters are so average it gives me cancer. The Bad guy betrayed his homeland for power(wow where have i seen that plot before, maybe uhhh everywhere). The main character's parents are dead, why does every main character's parents have to die? I feel sorry for the family of any main character in a book/movie, it usually mean instant death. The main character is just an average farm boy who gets a special power and must save the world. This has got to be the most overused plot line in all of literature. The author is supposed to be a genious, but lacks any real writing experience(he is only 17 at the time of the first book) and fails to create a unique character. Plus this book seems to take a lot from the LOTR series.

"But but but, its a best-seller, it must me good! right?"

Wrong, popularity doesn't mean quality, look at modern artists like Brittany Spears and Jessica Simpson.

"It has won awards n stuff"

Sure, its a good book for the 18 and under crown, but for more sophisticated readers it falls short.

Here is something that I have found on the net.

MILADRIS>Imladris

VANILOR>Valinor
ARDWEN>Arwen
CERANTHOR>Caranthir
BIERLAND>Beleriand
ISENSTAR>Isengaurd
MELIAN>Melian
MITHRIM>Mithrim
ISIDAR>Isildur
TURIN>Turin (note: the "u," in the right "Turin," has an accent)
ERAGON>ARAGORN (comparison in pronunciation)

what book doesnt take from the LOTR series? i mean cmon its the great grand daddy of fantasy

and i respect the fact you went through all the trouble of typing out all of the info you wrote and your personal feelings on the book but you are looking more at statistics i think instead of another readers individual feelings

It takes some aspects out of LOTR , does that make it good? No it doesnt

its a best seller, so does that mean its good? No you are correct about that

it has won awards does that mean its good? No it does not

"so gee HeXXeD, what makes this book good?" Because I enjoyed reading it, and i mean absolutely no disrespect toward you and i hope you dont take it that way but honestly what does it matter if the plot line is generic?

as far as books go every single plot line has been used and abused over the many many many years

what does it matter if certain names of people or areas in the book seemed to be copies off of other books? this also has been used and abused over many years by thousands of writers

the books may not be some of 'the greats' to you but honestly who is to say which book is a 'great?' because where as i believe LOTR was an amazing series, many others may not have even liked it, or they like harry potter or eragon more

so my honest opinion on the subject, and I dont mean to offend you and im sorry if I do but I dont really care what other people think of the series, or if they think it doesnt match up to other series. The fact is that I as an individual think the series is a great read, and no amount of critics or ratings or reviews will change that fact





Have a wonderful day!

[Kareas]

Ill totally agree with you in that i don't care what other people say about a book, but i will take reviews into consideration before i read something. I just wanted to serve as a reality check, so all people get isn't the hype and just "ZOMG EREGON IS LIKE TEH BESTIST BOOK EVA!!!!111!1". Its a book written by a 17-year old, nuff said. And nothing i said was meant to be offensive and i didn't take anything you said Hexxed as offensive, just a discussion.

Peace out

[HeXXeD]

Originally Posted by Kareas

Ill totally agree with you in that i don't care what other people say about a book, but i will take reviews into consideration before i read something. I just wanted to serve as a reality check, so all people get isn't the hype and just "ZOMG EREGON IS LIKE TEH BESTIST BOOK EVA!!!!111!1". Its a book written by a 17-year old, nuff said. And nothing i said was meant to be offensive and i didn't take anything you said Hexxed as offensive, just a discussion.

Peace out

ok then we have both our opinions down on the table..................now i challenge you to a match of ping pong!

[Kareas]

Originally Posted by HeXXeD

ok then we have both our opinions down on the table..................now i challenge you to a match of ping pong!

Ping pong is for noobs

The pros play Badminton

[HeXXeD]

Originally Posted by Kareas

Ping pong is for noobs

The pros play Badminton

have you seen some of those asian pro badminton players? its ridiculous how much action one game has

[immortal]

Originally Posted by Kareas

Well i guess ill be the thorn in this thread.

The books are good, i won't dispute that. But put up against 'the greats' in literature, these books don't stack up well. Don't mistake a long book and story for quality. The characters are so average it gives me cancer. The Bad guy betrayed his homeland for power(wow where have i seen that plot before, maybe uhhh everywhere). The main character's parents are dead, why does every main character's parents have to die? I feel sorry for the family of any main character in a book/movie, it usually mean instant death. The main character is just an average farm boy who gets a special power and must save the world. This has got to be the most overused plot line in all of literature. The author is supposed to be a genious, but lacks any real writing experience(he is only 17 at the time of the first book) and fails to create a unique character. Plus this book seems to take a lot from the LOTR series.

"But but but, its a best-seller, it must me good! right?"

Wrong, popularity doesn't mean quality, look at modern artists like Brittany Spears and Jessica Simpson.

"It has won awards n stuff"

Sure, its a good book for the 18 and under crown, but for more sophisticated readers it falls short.

Here is something that I have found on the net.

MILADRIS>Imladris

VANILOR>Valinor
ARDWEN>Arwen
CERANTHOR>Caranthir
BIERLAND>Beleriand
ISENSTAR>Isengaurd
MELIAN>Melian
MITHRIM>Mithrim
ISIDAR>Isildur
TURIN>Turin (note: the "u," in the right "Turin," has an accent)
ERAGON>ARAGORN (comparison in pronunciation)

Everyone has and is entitled to their own opinion. That said, you have a habit of stating your opinions as facts. Just because you don't think it stacks up for more sophisticated readers doesn't make it so. I have read more books than I care to think about throughout college, masters program, and just because I enjoy reading..., and I still found it enjoyable. And anyone who has read more than 1 or 2 fantasy books has seen the same plots used over and over. You can only tell a "hero" story but so many ways.

And people are calling him a genious writer, not because he changed the way fantasy books are writen, but because he simply did something most 17 year olds couldn't or wouldn't do. And every fantasy book since LOTR was written has taken parts of it and incorporated it into their own books. Why would anyone not try and emulate, at least on some level, what is considered by many to be the greatest fantasy series ever written?

p.s. foosball is where it's at.

[Mortae]

The books are lighter, enjoyable reads. This does not mean that they are pinnacles of fantasy literature. However, give credit to the writer who, at 17, managed to create a world and story that is enjoyed by both children and adults. Not many writers, even excellent ones, can manage that feat. Either the story is too simple for adults or too boring for kids. It takes real skill to balance those two demographics.

Most fantasy books do borrow elements from LotR, but they can also act as gateway books to any of Tolkien's work. For the average 10 year old, LotR is a fairly hard read. For alot of kids, if this was the first fantasy book you tried, you might be turned off by its complexity. Eragon is not like that. If someone really enjoys this work, it may prompt them to seek out other authors and stories, and eventually make their way to LotR.