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Old 07-14-2007, 10:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Possible cure for cancer....

but you cant have it
http://www.filecabi.net/video/file-166524224.html

love our capitalist country....
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Someone posted a read up of this story a little while ago, I forgot who.. but I was upset at it then and I am upset at it now. It makes no sense.. you can save hundreds.. thousands... of lives, is this not that important to get out to the people.. whats wrong with these money hungry pigs now days?
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd like to see someone who knows at all what they are talking about cover this subject. The anchor is Glenn Beck, a real dumbass, douche bag of a man, and I don't trust a thing he says. This is the same guy who put up a 9/11 conspiracy Dollar Bill folding bullshit piece up on his site as a serious piece (Maddox placed the piece in blue in that article). If someone who knows what they are talking about covers this, then I'll take a look.


But I wouldn't be surprised. In the corporate world, this type of thing just goes on. Look up how car recalls work (cost of recalling versus damages from wrongful death lawsuits) Cancer research of this type would have to be done by the government.

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Old 07-14-2007, 02:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Someone posted a read up of this story a little while ago, I forgot who.. but I was upset at it then and I am upset at it now. It makes no sense.. you can save hundreds.. thousands... of lives, is this not that important to get out to the people.. whats wrong with these money hungry pigs now days?

thats exactly it, why cure when you get millions by treating?


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Old 07-14-2007, 02:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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This really isn't anything new. Chances are many companies have found cures for all kinds of fatal diseases and cancer long before the public even finds hope of a miracle drug. The fact of the matter is, people are banking off of current treatments and milking our current methods of keeping these sorts of afflictions at bay for all its worth before they decide to throw any wonder drug out on the market.

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The problem with this happening is that corprate America has a huge threshold on the government. Which means as long as capitalism reigns, this situation won't really change. Our way of life commits us to circumstances we have no control over. But every society has its flaws, I mean things could be alot worse, so theres no point in getting upset.
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Old 07-14-2007, 03:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'd like to see someone who knows at all what they are talking about cover this subject. The anchor is Glenn Beck, a real dumbass, douche bag of a man, and I don't trust a thing he says. This is the same guy who put up a 9/11 conspiracy Dollar Bill folding bullshit piece up on his site as a serious piece (Maddox placed the piece in blue in that article). If someone who knows what they are talking about covers this, then I'll take a look.


But I wouldn't be surprised. In the corporate world, this type of thing just goes on. Look up how car recalls work (cost of recalling versus damages from wrongful death lawsuits) Cancer research of this type would have to be done by the government.
You know it random. For a youngin', your understanding is impressive. Glen Beck is the perfect example, next to Bill O'Reilly, of a mindless puppet that panders to their mentally handicapped audience and the right wing agenda. What's freaky though, is that he is where he is, because there are so many ignorant fools that relate to his overly expressive body language, childish form of energetic speech, and a narrow minded perspective of our existence.

This is a guy that called Micheal Moore a despicable human being for trying to raise awareness and actually do something about improving the healthcare system. He really has no idea what he even believes in; one minute he's bashing a guy like Moore, and then the next minute he's on the bandwagon pretending to be compassionate. Why would Glen Beck, and a number of republicans lash out at one of the most patriotic and compassionate guys in the U.S. for trying to improve the healthcare system?

Because they're greedy, self-serving douche bags, that don't really care themselves.

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Old 07-14-2007, 05:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Someone posted a read up of this story a little while ago, I forgot who.. but I was upset at it then and I am upset at it now. It makes no sense.. you can save hundreds.. thousands... of lives, is this not that important to get out to the people.. whats wrong with these money hungry pigs now days?

That might have been me. Since this is local news for me the local papers and news stations have been following this more closely than any of the major news organizations have (the initial big news is over. Time to move on to the next big story. This is what happens when news companies are run my the entertainment divisions of that company. But that's another rant for me).

The U of A website has a page devoted to the current testing of DCA:

seen here

It should be noted that while DCA *IS* showing alot of promise, there is some data that shows that some people that have been administers DCA for other rare ailments begin to have problems with their nervous system. So effectively this "miracle drug" could be "curing the disease by killing the patient".

It's in very early clinical trials right now on human subjects. and there is some research showing that perhaps DCA can be combined with docosahexaenoic acid, or DHA which performs far less effectively then DCA but without the nervous system problems.

It appearers to have received adequate funding from Health Canada, The Canadian Cancer Society, and private donations.

So we'll see how things progress over the coming months.
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If ya cure it, the drug companies wont make money off it, pretty sad.
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This really isn't anything new. Chances are many companies have found cures for all kinds of fatal diseases and cancer long before the public even finds hope of a miracle drug. The fact of the matter is, people are banking off of current treatments and milking our current methods of keeping these sorts of afflictions at bay for all its worth before they decide to throw any wonder drug out on the market.



The problem with this happening is that corprate America has a huge threshold on the government. Which means as long as capitalism reigns, this situation won't really change. Our way of life commits us to circumstances we have no control over. But every society has its flaws, I mean things could be alot worse, so theres no point in getting upset.
Sad but true. Even though i agree with you, it's sad to think that this common attitude is for the most part a result of "manufactured consent".

We should be more than just upset. We should be outraged, and collectively demand change.
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You know it random. For a youngin', your understanding is impressive. Glen Beck is the perfect example, next to Bill O'Reilly, of a mindless puppet that panders to their mentally handicapped audience and the right wing agenda. What's freaky though, is that he is where he is, because there are so many ignorant fools that relate to his overly expressive body language, childish form of energetic speech, and a narrow minded perspective of our existence.

This is a guy that called Micheal Moore a despicable human being for trying to raise awareness and actually do something about improving the healthcare system. He really has no idea what he even believes in; one minute he's bashing a guy like Moore, and then the next minute he's on the bandwagon pretending to be compassionate. Why would Glen Beck, and a number of republicans lash out at one of the most patriotic and compassionate guys in the U.S. for trying to improve the healthcare system?

Because they're greedy, self-serving douche bags, that don't really care themselves.

I don't think I would call Michael Moore despicable, but I wouldn't give anyone that sings praises about Cuba's healthcare system much credit.
I have not been to Cuba myself, so I could be incorrect on my information. But my wife is Cuban, and she has a big big family. The older ones that fled the country during it's communist take over regularly visit Cuba to see their relatives and friends that are still there.

Anyway, when they first heard about this movie they were shocked. Some laughed, some were appauled. I talked to my wife's great uncle, who visits the homeland about once every two years, about the movie. He says what's in the movie is complete horse shit. In his own words he explained how things were dressed up to make conditions look better than they really are. Kind of like if a filthy restaurant owner/manager knows a health inspector is scheduled to inspect their premesis, they clean up, from what I gathered. Whether that was the work of the film makers, or the Cuban government, he wasn't sure. He thinks this movie is bad for Cuba in the way that it makes the country look like it's in better shape than it really is, and that means one step further away from getting the outside help it needs.

Her uncle is a very good man and does not bull shit or sugar coat, so I believe what he says. The man gets stomach ulcers every time he visits the country because of the "stress" he endures from seeing what his home has become. Some of you may believe him too, I'm sure most of you will not. I just thought I'd let you know the opinions of a man who was born and raised in Cuba.

edit: just talked to my wife and she has some pictures of real Cuban hospitals that her aunt took. I'll put them up if yall want.
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