Puter DIED. Need opinions on 2 New Specs

[Pwnzilla]

The PC P&Cooling 750W, 60A, 12V Rail, Quad PCIe is a solid PSU. It also sports 2x6 pin & 2x6+2 pin PCIe connectors. The GPU you have selected requires the 6+2 pin connectors. You can use and adapter on 6 pin connectors but not having to use them is one less thing to worry about.

On Asus mobos the P5K line is a good choice. P5K Pro, P5K-E, or P5K Deluxe are all compatible and offer nice features.

[Bloodytrailz]

Originally Posted by Pwnzilla

The PC P&Cooling 750W, 60A, 12V Rail, Quad PCIe is a solid PSU. It also sports 2x6 pin & 2x6+2 pin PCIe connectors. The GPU you have selected requires the 6+2 pin connectors. You can use and adapter on 6 pin connectors but not having to use them is one less thing to worry about.

On Asus mobos the P5K line is a good choice. P5K Pro, P5K-E, or P5K Deluxe are all compatible and offer nice features.

i will personally back this up.


I have AND currently use in my computer

Asus P5K-E

its awesome, i love it, and ive had NO problem with it.
excellent mobo for its price too.

[Vyndara]

Originally Posted by Pwnzilla

The PC P&Cooling 750W, 60A, 12V Rail, Quad PCIe is a solid PSU. It also sports 2x6 pin & 2x6+2 pin PCIe connectors. The GPU you have selected requires the 6+2 pin connectors. You can use and adapter on 6 pin connectors but not having to use them is one less thing to worry about.

On Asus mobos the P5K line is a good choice. P5K Pro, P5K-E, or P5K Deluxe are all compatible and offer nice features.

Awesome Pwn...thanks for the PSU info on 2x6 pin & 2x6+2 pin PCIe connectors (have no idea what this is).

Also, I selected the Asus P5K3 Deluxe/WIFI-AP etc, etc, 16X, 1394... But there are P5Q models as well, are they not better? Nvmd, I think I'll simplify and stick with the P5K3 Deluxe unless it's a mistake.

AND, the discussion forums at the custom build place suggested I not get the NVidia 9800 GX2 but go with the ATI HD4870.....now, at 512MB, am I missing something here? I asked should I use 2 of them, but they insisted only one. My Nvidia card was a full 1Gb?? What do you think?

[Dissonance]

The 4870 is the new "round" of video cards, so it is more efficient and a MUCH better price/performance than a 9800X2. In pure raw performance, I have not seen a benchmark comparing the two and I do not have the time right now to look th einformation up (I will in a hour if no one else has responded)

I have a slight bias towards ATI, so I would buy them. One thing to keep in mind though is that more games are optimized for nVidia cards (they buy the advertising and help with optimization of code) so there are quite a few games that in the first two weeks will run a bit smoother on nVidia cards until ATI releases an update.

Edit: Nice PSU choice, I have that one myself =)

[FluffyBunni]

Well, i'm sure for the most part gigabyte makes good boards, but almost all the gigabyte boards i have worked with i have had to RMA. Some of them multiple times.

[Pedro]

Think it's all a matter of luck, I've had 2 vid card in a row DOA (XFX both), and 3/5 ASUS mobo's have arrived with defective chips, 1 RAM stick also DOA.

Now that the parts are being mass-mass produced, the chances of malfunctions and DOA's keep increasing.

[Dissonance]

On the graphics card, after doing some quick skimming, it appears the 4870 beats the 9800x2 on every game but Crysis by a good amount. So the 4870 will save you a bit of $$ and be better

May want to look into getting a motherboard that will support Crossfire. It should not be needed, but I would see what the price difference is that they have. if it is under $50 buy the crossfire motherboard. If it is more I would stick with a single GPU solution.

[Zer]

I just quickly ziped throught the topic and saw the PSU suggestion. Can I just say that unless your running a heavely overclocked quad 4-8Gigs of DDR2/3 RAM and more than 2HHD and 2GPUs, the PC Power&Cooling Silencer 610 watt will suit your perfectly.

I have one and its prob the best thing Ive bought for my PC. Trust me PC Power&Cooling is one of the best, if not, the best brand out there for PSUs...

[Zer]

Originally Posted by Pedro

Now that the parts are being mass-mass produced, the chances of malfunctions and DOA's keep increasing.

Depends on how you perceive things, usually as time goes; manufacturing processes mature and you get more consistent yeilds.

What your refering to is basically the rough numbers of "bad" stuff that accumulates and not the actual statistical percentages of the components.

[Pwnzilla]

Originally Posted by Dissonance

On the graphics card, after doing some quick skimming, it appears the 4870 beats the 9800x2 on every game but Crysis by a good amount. So the 4870 will save you a bit of $$ and be better

From the most comprehensive review I have seen, the 9800GX2 reliably out performs a single 4870 GPU.

AnandTech: The Radeon HD 4850 & 4870: AMD Wins at $199 and $299

A 9800GX2 is essentially two 9800GTX GPUs integrated into a single unit so that you don't have to use/have two PCIe X16 slots to SLI two single cards together. Now if you have two PCIe X16 slots, you will generally get better performance from two 4870s in Crossfire mode. The two 4870s will cost a bit more (~$150US total) than a single 9800GX2 using Newegg as a price guide. You would have to decide if the performance increase is worth the cost.

Some games only show only a couple frames per second (fps) increase, other show an ~40% improvement. That is the tricky aspect of both SLI & Crossfire solutions. Neither scale 100% in every application. It depends on the coding of the given application.

By going from one card to two, or a single 9800GTX to a 9800GX2, or a single 3870 to a 3870X2, you may experience a performance increase of ~80% to 0%. I have never seen an application gain a 100% increase in fps and sometimes applications do not support SLI/Crossfire at all so you gain nothing from having dual GPUs. It is rare these days though for developers to not recognize the potential for end users to utilize a dual card set-up so most applications will benefit to some degree from a dual GPU configuration.

So for best performance choose either one 9800GX2, or add ~$150US and go dual 4870s (assuming your mobo has two PCI Express X16 slots).