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Old 07-31-2008, 09:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Building my first computer need some help!

CPU: Intel E7200 Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 Dual Core Processor LGA775 2.53GHZ 1066FSB 3MB Retail Box - DirectCanada 126.99

GPU: Nvidia 9600GT (EVGA) EVGA GeForce 9600 GT Video Card - 512MB GDDR3, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV 512-P3-N861-AR in Canada at TigerDirect.ca 138.99

RAM: 2GB DDR2 800 [(upgrade to 4GB if using Vista 64)Corsair]
Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-6400 2GB 2X1GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL 5-5-5-18 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory - DirectCanada 52.00

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L
Buy - DirectCanada 89.99

PSU: [Antec Earthwatts 430W comes with the case]

HD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250 GB Sata2 16MB cache
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB SATA2 8.5MS 7200RPM 16MB Cache Hard Drive OEM 5YR MFR Warranty - DirectCanada 47.99

DVD: Samsung SH-S202J
Samsung SH-S202J DVD+RW 20X8X16 DVD-RW 20X6X16 DL 12X IDE Black DVD Writer OEM W/ Vista SW - DirectCanada 27.99

Case: Antec NSK6580 (bundled with PSU)
Antec NSK6580 New Solution ATX Mid Tower Case Silver Black 4X5.25 5X3.5INT 430W 80PLUS - DirectCanada 109.18

What I really need to know is if that harddrive OEM will I be missing important cables that are not coming from the other parts?
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Old 07-31-2008, 10:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The HD won't bring cables, but the motherboard brings them.

As for the Case I would change it for 2 reasons, 1) Better Air Flow, 2) That PSU won't handle the load.

Therefore you need a Case that doesn't bring a PSU and has better air flow, and a good PSU.

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Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 Atx 9 Drive Bay No Ps Top USB2.0 1394 Audio - DirectCanada
$92.22

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OCZ GameXStream 700W ATX12V 24PIN SLI Ready Active PFC ATX Power Supply 120MM Fan Black - DirectCanada
$87.35

Total is a little more than your previous case with the low PSU, but it's much better hardware.
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Old 08-01-2008, 12:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Pedro's giving you the goods. The case and PSU he linked are a far better choice. The PSU you list is barely adequate at best and the case he linked will will have far better airflow.
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Old 08-02-2008, 12:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I used the newegg power calculator thing they have and it comes up to 250w needed
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Old 08-02-2008, 04:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I used the newegg power calculator thing they have and it comes up to 250w needed
Ok your video card alone
Newegg.com - EVGA 512-P3-N861-AR GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

"System Requirements Minimum of a 400 Watt power supply
Minimum 450 Watt for SLI mode system"

That's just the Video card's need when it comes to power, start adding up everything else and the 430W won't keep up, and if it does it will be barely doing so, not to mention that leaves no room for future upgrades (unless you also upgrade the PSU in that future)
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Old 08-02-2008, 08:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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eXtreme Outer Vision - eXtreme tools for computer enthusiasts 276 watts with 2 USBs in use
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Grim, as I stated previously, the unit you have is acceptable to power the components you have listed.. Pedro's concern is that it is just so close to being inadequate that it make's him nervous.

To summarize, you don't have to purchase another PSU as that one will run your system as specified. However, if you want to do any significant upgrades or attempt any overclocking down the road you will probably have to upgrade the PSU at that time. So, no worries on what you have listed now. Just be aware of the future potential.
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Trust us Grim. When you get the garbage PSUs that come with cases, 1 year down the road you'll come to us saying "Well, a fire came out of my PSU" We'll say "Well, time to rebuild because your PSU probably took the rest of your system with it. Yes, the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM PSU wattage you need in there is 500, even that is pretty tight. Your parts may run, sure, but they probably won't be performing where they should be.

One of the number one rules of building a computer is, "Don't go cheap on the PSU"
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Actually, the Antec Earthwatts series of PSUs are pretty good. Not Corsair/OCZ/PCP&P good, but good enough. Assuming you already have the case/psu, I would just use it but keep in mind it's limitations with future upgrades. BTW, it is not just the wattage that is a concern, but the amperage as well.

Again, if you have already purchased the case/psu combo, run with it. It will run just fine with the components you have listed.

Just be cautious will additions/upgrades down the road.
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Just my opinion, I think that you should go with the nVidia 8800 GTS they are a lot better and only like 50 bucks more then the 9600 GT for the card.
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